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Gopher still going

Gopher, developed in 1991 at the University of Minnesota, is a text-only, hierarchical document search and retrieval protocol that was supplanted by the more flexible WWW in the mid-1990s. Some servers running this old protocol are still alive, however. The WELL, an online discussion board and community that started back in 1985, is still running a Gopher server. If you've got a recent version of Firefox, you can check it out in its original Gopher-y state at gopher://gopher.well.com/ or with any web browser at http://gopher.well.com:70/.

It seems to have been frozen in early 1996 or so and houses several historical documents from the early 1990s. Many of the links are dead and some documents cannot be found, but poking around for 20 minutes or so, I found:

One of the articles by Sterling, his remarks from a privacy conference in 1994, touches on a topic that's still hotly debated today:

I've been asked to explain why I don't worry much about the topics of privacy threat raised by this panel. And I don't. One reason is that these scenarios seem to assume that there will be large, monolithic bureaucracies (of whatever character, political or economic) that are capable of harnessing computers for one-way surveillance of an unsuspecting populace. I've come to feel that computation just doesn't work that way. Being afraid of monolithic organizations especially when they have computers, is like being afraid of really big gorillas especially when they are on fire.

I don't follow Sterling's writing that closely, but I wonder if he's changed his mind on this issue?

Matisse Enzer helped set up The WELL's Gopher server and tells how it came to be on his blog. And here are a few other Gopher servers that are still running:

gopher://aerv.nl/1
gopher://hal3000.cx/1
gopher://quux.org/1
gopher://sdf.lonestar.org/11/users
http://gopherproject.org/Software/Gopher

Update: It occurs to me that this might be up the alley of Digg's users. If you've got an account there, you may wish to Digg this story.

Update: Here's a write-up of GopherCon '92, "a small working session of Gopher developers and users". I liked this bit:

Ed Vielmetti of CICnet gave a talk on "what we would be gathering to discuss if UMinn had never developed Gopher", meaning primarily World-Wide Web (WWW). WWW was developed for the high-energy physics community and serves as a model of what Gopher could do if a discipline-oriented virtual community invested in it heavily.

Thanks for sending that along, Ed.

Update: The archives of the infamous spies.com Gopher server appear to be here. I don't know how complete they are or when they're from. (via digg)

Reader Comments
27 comments
ben says:
What a coincidence ... I posted this less than 2 weeks ago.

0_o
» by ben on Aug 01, 2006 at 10:58 AM
Narnia says:
Nice to see that the WELL is being pillaged for info... what a community/movement/hideout that place was during the establishing years of standards and ethos in "cyberspace". Only wish Barlow hadn't stuck with that term
» by Narnia on Aug 01, 2006 at 11:06 AM
dave kellam says:
Another nostalgic post that takes me back. I always liked gopher... it was the first place that I discovered the CIA World Factbook (couldn't find a gopher link). RSS readers remind of gopher, guess it's that stripped down feel.
» by dave kellam on Aug 01, 2006 at 11:48 AM
Bruce says:
The first thing I got using Gopher was Zen and the Art of the Internet, by Brendan Kehoe. He's still around at zen.org.
» by Bruce on Aug 01, 2006 at 12:04 PM
Sw. Prem says:
Bring back the GOPHER!!
» by Sw. Prem on Aug 01, 2006 at 12:58 PM
Ex-Alexandrian, Ex-UofMinnesnowtan says:
Minnesota, hats off to thee!
» by Ex-Alexandrian, Ex-UofMinnesnowtan on Aug 01, 2006 at 02:40 PM
l0ne says:
It is not amazing that Gopher servers are still alive. What is amazing is that, when I clicked on the link, I had a client that was able to talk to them! (It's Firefox, by the way.)
» by l0ne on Aug 01, 2006 at 02:47 PM
Grant Hutchins says:
About a year ago I searched for any gopher servers that were still up and decided after several hours of fruitless searching that it was completely dead. I could only find one or two projects at SourceForge for running a gopher server, with no live demos anywhere to be found.

I had pretty much given up, so thanks for this! Now I can finally explore gopherspace a little bit. Thanks for the nostalgia.
» by Grant Hutchins on Aug 01, 2006 at 03:41 PM
Toni Viemerö says:
My blog (in finnish) has been available using gopher and www for four years now :)

http://selfdestruct.net/
gopher://selfdestruct.net/
» by Toni Viemerö on Aug 01, 2006 at 04:20 PM
That guy says:
Poor WELL. This blog got dugg on digg, and now WELL's kerplotz
» by That guy on Aug 01, 2006 at 04:33 PM
Fletcher says:
More proof Al Gore created the Internet!
» by Fletcher on Aug 01, 2006 at 05:10 PM
Carbon Ocelot says:
I'm surprised Gopher at Floodgap didn't make this list. Cameron Kaiser still maintains his veronica 2 searcher.
» by Carbon Ocelot on Aug 01, 2006 at 05:52 PM
kuldeep says:
GoPher ah! how I missed thee!!!...Some of my first menories of Internet here is INdia are browsing through gopher. I had no idea Gopher was still around,
» by kuldeep on Aug 01, 2006 at 06:21 PM
Ivan Pope says:
Gopher!
TurboGopher!
Veronica!
Archie!
names to conjour with.
And then came the World Wide Web
» by Ivan Pope on Aug 01, 2006 at 07:08 PM
Andy says:
Camino will open gopher too... oh... and lynx, of course (which is really fun seeing it in it's original context).

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/lynxtextwebbrowser.htm

Damn it. Now I want to set up a server. Have no idea what I'd do with it, mind you, except reall screw with peopl "Yeah I run a gopher server on my Mini."
» by Andy on Aug 01, 2006 at 07:42 PM
olivier says:
Where is Paul Linder now ?
I always thought Gopher would have been a better WAP 1.0 than WAP.
» by olivier on Aug 01, 2006 at 11:26 PM
Joe, AOL Journals Editor says:
Hi Jason -- I used to maintain the Gopher area in AOL's Internet Connection; I did a little entry about AOL's Gopher area, which still exists and is accessible (albeit hidden) via the AOL client software.

Thanks -- Joe
» by Joe, AOL Journals Editor on Aug 02, 2006 at 12:12 PM
Suebob says:
I remember the WELL well. My first internet experience. Before GUI. Just green letters on a black screen. I was far away from Berkeley, so I had to pay long distance charges to access it. After so many people were using it to coordinate housing and relief efforts during the Berkeley firestorm, I remember thinking "This thing really has potential." I underestimated a bit.
» by Suebob on Aug 02, 2006 at 12:42 PM
Edward Einhorn says:
That's really interesting. Thanks for alerting me to it. Somehow the whole Gopher thing passed under my radar originally, but going back and looking through it now is a really fascinating experience.

Edward Einhorn
» by Edward Einhorn on Aug 03, 2006 at 01:45 PM
DKR says:
gopherpedia? Perhaps in the past! Would be neat to see.
» by DKR on Aug 04, 2006 at 12:06 AM
Paul Lindner says:
Hi,

Paul Lindner here. Working deep in the bowels of TypePad and sundry other projects at Six Apart these days.

Anil thought that Gopher might make an interesting news item:

http://www.sixapart.com/about/news/2006/08/digging_up_info.html

So I answered all his interesting questions.
» by Paul Lindner on Aug 07, 2006 at 07:20 PM
Anil says:
Hey, we found Paul!
» by Anil on Aug 07, 2006 at 11:35 PM
Danny says:
Last year (while irritated at the general crapness of OPML) I semi-seriously suggested Gopher NG, basically Gopher done with XML and RDF over HTTP taking advantage of developments in the (Semantic) Web. Since then a Javascript-based browser that implements pretty much all I suggested has appeared, from none other than Tim Berners-Lee: Tabulator.
» by Danny on Aug 08, 2006 at 04:24 AM
Ben Tremblay says:
Gopher still hot? Dang right! I'm still getting hits in my blog from this post. Can we say that it (gopher) is paradigmatic of "long tail"?

K ... what's going on here? I know a) I get fed up with just how bloated FF is and b) it's sometimes a perk to use telnet and/or pine. Maybe some of us really appreciate sleek / parsimonious?

p.s. Thinking about the interface I'm cobbling together for my "Participatory Deliberation" is where sleek/parsimonious came up. When I slip into that mode I see Web2.0 as spring-loaded and self-evident. A series/collection/suite of single-page apps?
» by Ben Tremblay on Aug 08, 2006 at 04:42 PM
Allen says:
I remember gopher -- and I remember it because I would sit in a 1000 station computer lecture hall for hours checking things... oh yea and MUD's -- who remember's these? :)

I remember how many times we would hit on girls using the MUD...

aah - the old days.... sure wish I would have known then what I know now!

» by Allen on Aug 08, 2006 at 09:42 PM
Jay Nemrow says:
For all those that say there are no Gopher Servers left...

Here is my gopher site

Here is a very active one

Gopher is alive, but more of a hobby now for a few purists. I enjoy the simplicity of it.
» by Jay Nemrow on Aug 16, 2006 at 03:56 PM
vix says:
Oh, fuss and bother with all the spam commenting. Anyway, Gopher was awesome. I used to marvel at the possibilities it presented as I tapped away at it in '93 at the U of MN, proud to be at the location of the launching pad. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
» by vix on Sep 12, 2006 at 02:02 PM

 
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