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There's a book coming out in December

There's a book coming out in December based on PostSecret, a web site that displays postcards with secrets written on them sent in by readers. I heard something long ago about the site not actually using reader submissions, at least in the beginning before it got popular enough to get the quality of entries that they post...did anyone actually verify or debunk that rumor?

Update: PostSecret proprietor Frank Warren responds and John Nick effectively explains how the site was bootstrapped from an offline event.

Reader Comments
18 comments
beerzie says:

Don't know at all if it is true, but it would be somewhat of a disappointment if it was. Sort of speaks to the whole issue of how true what you read online is. I mean, how many bloggers warp the truth or just make up stuff? And how much does it matter?

» by beerzie on Sep 07, 2005 at 03:13 PM
stacey says:

i've had the same wonderings myself - i check postsecret every week and, you know, some of them look like b.s... and they're all so artistically rendered. i'm curious myself. can we have snopes check into this?

» by stacey on Sep 07, 2005 at 03:14 PM
rich says:

you know, some of them look like b.s... and they're all so artistically rendered

But that kept consistent throughout. Two things come to mind: first, that many of them might very well be b.s., but come from contributors so their veracity cannot be determined, and second that they're all so artistically rendered because the people maintaining the project don't publish the boring ones. Newspapers and photo exhibitions also exhibit consistency in that regard but no-one suspects that the editors and gallery owners are making up all of the content themselves.

» by rich on Sep 07, 2005 at 04:43 PM
fangs says:

I heard something a while ago about JK being a rather large perl script. Can anyone confirm?

» by fangs on Sep 07, 2005 at 04:51 PM
jake says:

theres a music video on mtv that has all those post cards on them. maybe its some viral marketing or leftovers from the production? i wish i remembered the name of the video but i cant watch mtv for more than 10 seconds now in my old age. :-p

» by jake on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:18 PM
Vaughn says:

I'm pretty sure it was the All American Rejects.

» by Vaughn on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:23 PM
Donnie Jeter says:

I mean, how many bloggers warp the truth or just make up stuff? And how much does it matter?

If bloggers were to consistently warp the truth, it would discredit them as a viable news source - I think as a whole, the blogosphere is pretty honest.

» by Donnie Jeter on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:23 PM
beerzie says:

I don't know if there is anything there that can confirm or debunk PostSecret, but there was a NPR story about the site.

And Donnie, I agree. I guess I meant more "personal journal" type blogs, which are largely on the honor system, and whose facts are pretty unverifiable anyway.

» by beerzie on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:29 PM
Ben Spicer says:

Yes, it was the All American Rejects. The postcard was sold on ebay.
Link

The money went to the Kristin Brooks Hope Center

» by Ben Spicer on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:35 PM
Frank Warren says:


Hi, I am Frank Warren the PostSecret blogger. I get about 350 postcards every week so what is posted is a very select few. Each card is authentic - true is for all of us to decide. Someone email me once saying, "Even if the sender does not know the secret is true - it is real".

Thousands of the actual postcards will be on exhibit soon in Georgetown, New York and Toronto. Come look for yourself.

And if you are still skeptical, here is a challenge. Send me an email, come to my house, and look at my collection. If you are not convinced they are authentic I will give you $100.00. If you are convinced then you make a $100.00 donation to the Kritin Brooks Hope Center.

Be well,
-Frank

» by Frank Warren on Sep 07, 2005 at 07:08 PM
Leigha says:

Real? Yeah, I buy into it for a few reasons: the site specifically asks people to "be creative" and let the postcard be their "canvas" (those wacky artists are pretty adept at sharing stuff and making it look good); and varied Levels of Secret are presented - from "I shave my face, and I'm a girl!" to "my mother killed my father long before he killed himself" - that speak to each individual's take on reality and what, to them, constitutes a secret worth keeping.

» by Leigha on Sep 07, 2005 at 08:02 PM
Eric J says:

If they are real, and maybe they are, has anyone seen them anywhere else outside of the PostSecret site? If a postcard submission is made, it would seem logical that said submitter would be proud of that work and post it elsewhere, even anonymously. It wouldn't be hard to start a similar site (anonymously) and post your own postcards, including the one(s) that got "approved" by Frank Warren.

Also, can anyone claim ownership (anonymously or not) of any of the featured postcards?

» by Eric J on Sep 07, 2005 at 08:29 PM
Rachel says:

So why do so many of the cards have such suspiciously similar handwriting? Especially in the beginning?

» by Rachel on Sep 07, 2005 at 09:08 PM
jtnt says:

I heard the guy get interviewed awhile ago on NPR, right after the site got popular, and he seemed pretty genuine about the whole deal. The beginnings of the site seemed pretty organic. And it' not like he's been running Google ads the whole time - or ever - to make money off of it. Hell, even if he is making money off it now, good for him. And even if he manufactured some of the first ones. It's a lot better than many of the other blogs/sites that make money for their publisher.

» by jtnt on Sep 07, 2005 at 11:09 PM
John Nick says:

Let's answer Jason Kottke's original rationale for skepticism:

"...before it got popular enough to get the quality of entries"

PostSecret began as an art installation at Artomatic in Washington DC. Artomatic is a huge every-couple-years exhibition that includes as many as 1000 different artists. It takes place in vacated office buildings and schools. Last year, the year PostSecret was featured, it was in an abandoned children's museum.

The PostSecret installation had big stacks of blank postcards and people attending Artomatic (including the hundreds of artists prowling the place) were encouraged to submit.

I don't know Frank Warren, but I was blown away by how many people I saw at his installation, submitting truly excellent work.

So, no. Since that's where this project had its big debut (and Frank, please correct me if I've gotten any of this wrong), it's COMPLETELY believeable that he was able to get off the ground with a big gorgeous bang.

» by John Nick on Sep 08, 2005 at 10:01 AM
jkottke says:

PostSecret began as an art installation at Artomatic in Washington DC.

Aha! Ok, now it makes sense...I didn't know the site was bootstrapped by an offline event. PostSecret is certainly popular enough now to maintain the high quality the entries have, but the quality of the early entries was puzzling.

» by jkottke on Sep 08, 2005 at 10:58 AM
Annonymous says:

As far as them sounding like bs, that's just for people who've never felt that way. I personally don't share the sentiments that some of those postsecret contributors. But I do share a few of them. And I know a lot of people who share "secrets" that I don't. I would be surprised if they weren't real

» by Annonymous on Sep 20, 2005 at 06:39 PM
Anonymous says:

I've had a postcard on it, but it's not there anymore and I can't find an old link =(

But it said, "I loved you more when I didn't know you loved me."

» by Anonymous on Sep 25, 2005 at 04:55 PM

 
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